A Quaker Statement on Torture

June 6, 2008 at 8:12 am | In Bush Administration, Iraq, Peeves | 2 Comments

I regularly attend the Quaker (Society of Friends) meeting in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Although I’m not a Quaker, I agree with them on most things. Like the Quakers (and most Americans) I’m horrified by the fact that our government uses torture. The following is the text of the statement:

Preamble:

It is the custom of Friends Meetings (Quakers) to write official statements, called Minutes, concerning current moral issues both as an exercise among ourselves to come to clarity and unity about them and as a public witness to our neighbors.

Because of our concern for prisoners, military service members, and civilian workers involved in the United States government’s alleged interrogation practices, the Fayetteville Friends Monthly Meeting has written the following Minute on Torture.

Fayetteville (NC) Friends Meeting’s Minute on Torture

“Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured.”

                            Hebrews 13:3 NRSV

                        (New Revised Standard Version)

Recognizing that of God in every person, we condemn the use of torture for any purpose by any person, group, or government. Torture by any means is immoral. It debases the humanity of the tortured, the torturer, and those who have knowledge of it.

For Fayetteville, NC Monthly Meeting, torture is not a distant issue. We are located near a major hub of a growing international torture complex. Hundreds of torture flights have taken off nearby; training for the brutal techniques takes place in the region at secretive military and other facilities. Our public officials have ignored protests.

The acceptance of torture is making our society an international pariah. We appeal to Friends and others everywhere to take up this concern and follow it through. Let us bear down into the work of bringing this immoral practice into the Light. Let us do all we can to bring about the day when torture is banished from our country and from our planet.

A Comment from The Curmudgeon

I urge you to write your elected representatives to let them know how you feel. (An easy way is to join Congress.org: see the link at the right.) You may also want to visit the National Religious Campaign Against Torture at http://www.nrcat.org/. For additional information on Quakers visit the Friends General Conference at http://www.fgcquaker.org/

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  1. I hate to say this, but I am actually a great fan of capital torture. To me, the fear of going to prison to be tortured is far greater than the fear of going to prison to be put to death. I believe that if you rape, murder, or commit any crime that is extremely severe, torture is in order. I can attest to that myself, i definitely learned some lessons on the quarterdeck and sand-pit in boot camp. It was certainly torture, but you better believe i NEVER made the same mistake again. I believe it would benefit our society, if people knew they were to be tortured for their crimes, there would be less of them.

    ~p

  2. Thanks for your comment, Pete.

    Good theory…but.

    In the good old days they chopped hands off, cut tongues out, and imprisoned people under conditions that make the Marines’ boot camp seem like a stroll in the park on a lovely spring afternoon. Studies have shown that criminals in general don’t fear prison or the death penalty (or toture if we adopted your theory). They don’t think they’re going to get caught.

    Torture doesn’t work if you’re trying to get information out of somebody, either. The prisoner will say anything you want…just to get you to stop.

    But most important, what the Minute says is that torture is not a way that human beings ought to treat other human beings. By torturing we turn ourselves into what we hate; we lower ourselves to the level of our enemies.

    As a Marine, you must know that if the US tortures enemy prisoners it increases the likelyhood that the enemy will torture captured members of our military.

    Obviously, you and I disagree. But I’m delighted to have your comments on my blog, and I hope you’ll comment again and again!


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